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Stacey Ann Crowley

Stacey Ann Crowley12-09-2020 03:15 PM

  • 1. 

    Posted 08-03-2020 09:51 AM
    Good morning all!  I wanted to get some brainstorming ideas for how you plan on keeping up with continuing education this year in the absence of many in-person events.  I thought this would be a great forum to share some ideas in the hopes that we could all benefit from hearing about some opportunities available to SLP/AUDs.


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    Faith Mogila, ScD, CCC-A
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  • 2.  RE:

    Posted 08-04-2020 08:26 AM
    I have been using speechpathology.com as well as the ASHA learning pass (when it was free).  However, California requires 18/24 hours every two years to be live.  I used to get these primarily at in person conferences.  However, It is challenging to catch live course webinars.  I am hoping ASHA will help advocate for them to waive the live requirements during the pandemic.  Thankfully, there are many recorded options available.

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    Jo Ann Jarnac
    Key West, FL
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  • 3.  RE:

    Posted 08-05-2020 07:35 AM
    Hi Jo Ann:

    I am a bit surprised that your state ed dept. hasn't issued a waiver for the live hour requirement during the pandemic and the following year.  I would  communicate with CSHA, your professional state association, about this--they can start the dialogue with the licensing board and advocate for this.   You can also ask CSHA to bring this up at CSAP, Council State Association Presidents.  Many of the other states have applied received such waivers, and they can offer support and ideas. 

    I hope that helps.

    Warm regards,
    Wendy

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    Wendy Papir Bernstein SLP, ASHA Fellow
    Associate Professor, Adjunct Lehman College, CUNY
    2020 President NYSSLHA
    New York State Speech-Language-Hearing-Association
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  • 4.  RE:

    Posted 08-05-2020 11:23 AM

    I would echo Wendy's comments about bringing this forward to your licensing board via your state association (or even writing to them yourself). 

     

    To Faith's original question, here are a few ideas of ways that I (and my colleagues) are keeping up with our CEU's:

    1.  Using ASHA's Learning Pass

    2.  Our state association (ArkSHA) is going to have our annual conference virtually this year.  We are very excited about the possibilities that moving to a virtual platform gives us.  Maybe some of you will join us for our virtual conference?  More details will be available soon at arksha.org

    3.  Non-conventional ways – for the last several years at AR Children's Hospital, we have encouraged staff members on our team to develop and present "Lunch and Learn" sessions.  These are typically an hour long.  We provide certificates of attendance and keep a record of attendance as well.  It has truly been a great learning experience for both the presenter(s) and the attendees.  I consider this to be an example of a way to "lead" in your work environment.  Volunteering to provide some professional development around a topic that you have some expertise in to your work group or even SLPs/AUDs in your community is a great way to lead locally. 

     

    Donna

     

    Donna Fisher Smiley, Ph.D., CCC-A

    ASHA Fellow
    Audiology Supervisor/Audiologist
    Arkansas Children's Hospital

    1 Children's Way ● Slot 113  ● Little Rock, AR 72202

    (501) 680-2718  direct  ● (501) 364-6881 fax
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  • 5.  RE:

    Posted 08-05-2020 11:27 AM
    I think this is very valuable information Wendy.  Many members will find this useful in their states.  Thank you for posting this!

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    Faith Mogila
    Bloomfield, NJ
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  • 6.  RE:

    Posted 08-06-2020 02:12 PM
    Hi Jo Ann and Everyone:

    Thanks to everyone for your input. FYI: I did reach out to CSHA about this. The person I was in touch with was not open to advocating around this issue, but perhaps a different person could/would. They simply passed me on to the licensing board. The California licensing board has not waived any of the requirements( e.g., 24 hours every two years, only 6 of which can be for self-study). I'm still waiting for them to confirm that, regarding the other 18, they will accept live webinars rather than in-person events. The only waiver they have put in place is, for anyone who needs to renew their licenses from now through August 20th, they will give you 6 additional months to get the CEUs. I will post again as I get more information. For those of you other states, it's a good idea to get clear about your licensing requirements. I wish our state licensing department were being as supportive as ASHA. Once again, thank you, everyone.

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  • 7.  RE:

    Posted 08-06-2020 02:23 PM
    Edited by Michael Providence 03-02-2021 10:22 AM
    Hey Jim,

    In case this is useful:

    The ASHA State-by-State page: https://www.asha.org/advocacy/state/ has a link to the CA licensure info at https://www.asha.org/advocacy/state/info/CA/. That page may have some useful advocacy options for you to take a look at.

    Also, the CE requirements page on ~CA.gov (https://www.speechandhearing.ca.gov/licensees/ce_req.shtml) offers definitions that seem to answer your question about what they consider "self study." That page specifically notes that live online courses are not self-study and are considered equivalent to sitting in a class (but look at the exception note about the 'fake live' webinars that are out there that combine a recorded sessions with a short live chat at the end - those are considered self-study by CA). See the link for the complete and authoritative details.

    Cheers,
    Jack

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    Jack Coursen
    Director, ASHA Professional Development
    American Speech-Language-Hearing Association (ASHA)
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  • 8.  RE:

    Posted 08-06-2020 02:35 PM
    Thank You Jack!
    It's great to know that live online isn't considered self-study. Thanks for finding the answer to my question as soon as I answered it.
    Jim




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  • 9.  RE:

    Posted 11-09-2020 01:19 PM
    Picking up again on this thread.  I'm an SLP based in California.  My two older children have been doing distance learning since March 16, 2020 and will continue to be at home 100% of the time through at least January 2021.  I'm in a situation in which I cannot attend "live" computer-based CEU courses because I'm responsible for providing my children lunch, snacks, help on assignments, and care after school hours.  According to the .gov web site, California hasn't given any exception to the 24-hour CEU requirement within 2 years for license renewal. And as before the pandemic, 18 hours of the 24 must be "live" courses - not self-study.  I do not have the opportunity to complete any live weekday OR weekend courses.  I simply don't have a several hours stacked together without the need for parenting.  Does anyone have any insights into what SLPs are to do in my situation (and I'm sure there are thousands of us, if not tens of thousands)?
    https://www.speechandhearing.ca.gov/licensees/ce_req.shtml

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    Dawn Gold
    Mountain View, CA
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  • 10.  RE:

    Posted 11-09-2020 01:36 PM
    Dawn, I agree this is an issue. It always has been for me as a military spouse trying to maintain my licensure there. But it has been exacerbated by COVID for many. Maybe if enough of us write letters to the board, they will consider revising this requirement. It is silly, especially these days when so much is offered online with recorded options in case we can’t make the live time. I don’t understand the need for it to be live courses. None of the other 4 states I am licensed in (nor ASHA) have this requirement. Would love to hear others weigh in on this.

    Jo Ann Jarnac M.S., CCC-SLP
    Speech Language Pathologist
    jjarnacslp@gmail.com




  • 11.  RE:

    Posted 11-09-2020 01:52 PM
    Hi Dawn:  Your post caught my eye, since I am President of New York Speech-Language-Hearing Association, and we have been dealing with similar issues.  I got curious, and so checked out this link, which you are probably already familiar with:  https://www.speechandhearing.ca.gov/licensees/covid19.shtml  In NY, we work closely with NYSED Office of the Professions, and I think this link is your comparable office.  I would pay careful attention to any waivers related to COVID, and why not request one?  

    Don't know if this will help you, but NYSSLHA is having it's first ever Virtually Unconventional CE event this Friday and Saturday-all live and one can receive up to 11 hours for audiology and SLP.  Here is the link:  https://www.nysslha.org/unconventional-ce-program/  Have you spoken with CASHA about offering some live events?  

    Good luck, and please let me know if I can offer any additional assistance.
    Wendy


    Wendy Papir Bernstein, MS CCC-SLP  ASHA Fellow

    President, 
    New York State Speech-Language-Hearing Association (NYSSLHA)

    Associate Professor, Adjunct
    Lehman College, CUNY

    Retired Speech Supervisor 
    NYCDOE, D75

    Author of "The Practitioner's Path in Speech Language Pathology: The Art of School-based Practice"
    Plural Publishing (2018)














  • 12.  RE:

    Posted 11-09-2020 02:19 PM
    Wendy, thank you for posting that info!  I sent the info to some colleagues who may be interested in the OTC talk by Barbara Weinstein.  This looks like a great opportunity to learn some new information, and to get some CEUs.  Thanks again!

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    Faith Mogila, ScD, CCC-A
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  • 13.  RE:

    Posted 11-10-2020 10:05 PM
    Thank you both @Jo Ann Jarnac and @ Wendy Papir Bernstein.  I may ending contacting the CA Board indeed.





  • 14.  RE:

    Posted 11-10-2020 11:56 AM
    Hi Dawn,
    I am in CA as well. I believe if you contact the licensing board, explain your situation, they can help you out.

    Melissa

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    Melissa Jakubowitz, M.A., CCC-SLP, ASHA Fellow
    Board Certified Specialist-Child Language (BCS-CL)
    eLiveNow (www.elivenow.com)







  • 15.  RE:

    Posted 11-11-2020 09:04 AM
    I would like to know how it was resolved, because I am in the same boat. I called CASHA but was unable to get a clear answers.
    Thank you for any information you may have.





  • 16.  RE:

    Posted 11-12-2020 12:34 AM
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    After doing some grunt work I discovered a very satisfying answer to my initial question of whether our CE classes had to be virtually "live" or not.  It appears that CE requirements are being temporarily waived altogether!  Read on ...

    This is the COVID-19 Updates and Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) page: https://www.speechandhearing.ca.gov/licensees/covid19.shtml
    On this page is the text below. Their language comes from #5 of Governor Gavin Newsom's executive order, which you can access in the PDF link below. 

    COVID-19 SPEECH AND HEARING RELATED WAIVERS

    On March 30, 2020 Governor Newsom issued Executive Order N-39-20, available at https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/3.30.20-EO-N-39-20.pdf. Executive Order N-39-20 authorized the director of the Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) to waive any of the professional licensing requirements relating to healing arts licensees in Division 2 of the Business and Professions Code, and any accompanying regulations. This includes, but is not limited to, the examination, education, experience, and training requirements necessary to obtain and maintain licensure, and requirements governing the practice and permissible activities for licensees.


    From this page of the Department of Consumer Affairs https://www.dca.ca.gov/licensees/waiver_request_info.shtml I read: 

    Executive Order N-39-20 Questions and Answers
    Does this Executive Order apply to every license type regulated by DCA?
    The waivers to increase the healthcare workforce applies to the license types regulated by the following boards ... and speech-language pathology and audiology is on that list.

    ** AND I found the attached waiver dated from just a few weeks ago **  I highlighted what was relevant to our question.

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    In case anyone in California needs to ask a question or make a request of the Board pertaining to CE requirements for maintaining licensure:

    Email address to contact the Speech-Language Pathology & Audiology & Hearing Aid Dispensers Board   speechandhearing@dca.ca.gov
    Phone number   (916) 263-2666





  • 17.  RE:

    Posted 11-12-2020 07:34 AM
    That's great news Dawn, as I had suspected it might be when I sent the link.  Happy you got the outcome you were looking for.




    Wendy Papir Bernstein, M.S. CCC-SLP  ASHA Fellow

    2020 President
    New York State Speech-Language-Hearing Association (NYSSLHA)

    Associate Professor, Adjunct
    Lehman College, C.U.N.Y

    Speech Supervisor, Retired NYCDOE D75 Speech Services 

    Author of "The Practitioner's Path in Speech Language Pathology: The Art of School-based Practice"
    Plural Publishing (2018)






  • 18.  RE:

    Posted 11-12-2020 11:30 AM
    Hi Dawn,
    I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but I am reading this a bit differently than you. The executive order authorized the director  of DCA to waive those requirements, but is there an order from the director of DCA that actually waives the education requirements?

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    Melissa Jakubowitz, M.A., CCC-SLP, ASHA Fellow
    Board Certified Specialist-Child Language (BCS-CL)
    eLiveNow (www.elivenow.com)







  • 19.  RE:

    Posted 11-12-2020 11:42 AM
    It certainly would be helpful if the board would put out some sort of statement so that it is clear rather than each individual having to call them.

    Jo Ann Jarnac M.S., CCC-SLP
    Speech Language Pathologist
    jjarnacslp@gmail.com




  • 20.  RE:

    Posted 11-13-2020 09:06 AM
    For our colleagues in California, I found the following link to a waiver from the office of DCA in California: https://www.dca.ca.gov/licensees/dca_20_53.pdf

    Specifically it states: "Pursuant to the Governor's Executive Order N-39-20, during the State of Emergency, the Director of the California Department of Consumer Affairs may waive any statutory or regulatory renewal requirements pertaining to individuals licensed pursuant to Division 2 of the Business and Professions Code (the Code).
    Accordingly, for individuals whose active licenses expire between March 31, 2020, and October 31, 2020, the Director temporarily waives:
    1. any statutory or regulatory requirement that individuals renewing a license pursuant to Division 2 of the Code take and pass an examination in order to renew a license; and,
    2. any statutory or regulatory requirement that an individual renewing a license pursuant to Division 2 of the Code complete, or demonstrate compliance with, any continuing education requirements in order to renew a license.
      These temporary waivers do not apply to any continuing education, training, or examination required pursuant to a disciplinary order against a license.
    Licensees must satisfy any waived renewal requirements within six months of this order, unless further extended.
    These temporary waivers do not relieve such individuals from timely complying with any other renewal requirements, including completing and submitting the required renewal forms to the governing licensing agency.
    As a result of these waivers, the Department of Consumer Affairs' constituent licensing agencies may renew licenses despite noncompliance with the statutory or regulatory renewal requirements identified above."

    I hope this is helpful!





  • 21.  RE:

    Posted 08-05-2020 12:32 PM
    Jo-Ann- thanks for the post. I'm in California also and have been doing exactly what you are doing. I too am hoping ASHA will wave the live requirements. If anymore has thoughts about the best way to advocate for this, please pass it along.

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  • 22.  RE:

    Posted 08-05-2020 01:29 PM

    Jim,

     

    I am going to get official confirmation from ASHA's Professional Development section, BUT I do not believe that ASHA has a "live" requirement for CEU's.  Based on information at these two sites on the ASHA webpage, I think that online, whether synchronous or not, professional development is fine.

     

    Definition of professional development:   https://www.asha.org/certification/ProfDevelopment/

    and

    Acceptable activities for professional developmental  https://www.asha.org/certification/FactDef/

     

    I will seek confirmation on this and post back here.

     

    Donna

     

    Donna Fisher Smiley, Ph.D., CCC-A

    ASHA Fellow
    Audiology Supervisor/Audiologist
    Arkansas Children's Hospital

    1 Children's Way ● Slot 113  ● Little Rock, AR 72202

    (501) 680-2718  direct  ● (501) 364-6881 fax
    WebsiteFacebookTwitterLinkedIn


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  • 23.  RE:

    Posted 08-05-2020 02:04 PM
    Hey everyone,

    Just to chime in here quickly, while this is towards the edge of my expertise, Donna is right that ASHA has no requirements for live vs. self study credit hours for certification maintenance. 

    Some state license boards do have those sorts of requirements. State licensure *is* outside of my are of expertise, but Wendy and Donna already offered some good suggestions on advocating on that (e.g., contacting your licensure board or licensing agency in order to provide feedback on that requirement and/or ask for information on the scientific basis for it, etc.).

    Best,
    Jack

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    Jack Coursen
    Director, ASHA Professional Development
    American Speech-Language-Hearing Association (ASHA)
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  • 25.  RE:

    Posted 12-09-2020 03:15 PM
    Edited by Michael Providence 03-02-2021 10:22 AM